
leo stone
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Wednesday April 30, 2008 11:33 PM
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Steven, forgive me, but you seem a little slanted against speed tables.
I'm another Kitsaper, I live between Manette and Illahee in the Enatei area.
My experience with bumps or tables is quite different from yours. Of course, this is just based on what I've seen over the last few years, nothing scientific.
East 30th street, just north of my street, is posted 25mph. Motor traffic used to hit 35-50 mph in that three block street. It's residential with kids. Used to see wrecks at the intersection of East 30th and Trenton at least every two weeks.
About four years ago speed bumps (three sets) were installed by the county. Now speeds are 15-25 mph. Children ride their bikes in the street. People walk up to the Red Apple store. No more wrecks. It's quiet, people can live there enjoyably. I can ride over the bumps on my bike at 25mph, no problem, just unweight the bike as I go over.
Speed tables in Bremerton were my daughter lives with her two sons. The same result. They can ride bikes with their friends. People walk safely.
Tracyton Blvd is marked 25-30mph. Used to see 40-60 mph on this road. Damn dangerous to cycle on. After the speed tables were installed, same result. And West Sound Club uses it for part of the Tour de Kitsap route. I see kids and adults walking on the roads side now. I can ride those at the speed of traffic, in fact cars need to slow much more than cycles do over them.
My experience with Kitsaps narrow roads is safety is to a large part determined by the speed difference between cycles and cars, all other factors being equal. Slower cars, more reaction time for drivers. And at night, more time to be seen. I don't think they distract motorists at all. Quite the opposite. Drivers have to pay attention
At a meeting last year about the replacement for the Manette Bridge, I suggested to the State that speed tables be installed at both ends and the middle of the bridge just to keep the speeds down.I ride the old Mannette Bridge to work. It's very narrow but what makes it safe to cycle on is that motorists slow down because of the narrowness. Their speed matches mine and I can safely take the centre of the lane. Indeed on the Wheaton Way bridge, marked 35mph southbound motor traffic hits 50+mph. I ride north on that bridge on my commute home and see at least one to two rear-enders a week.
From what I've seen, the traffic calming from tables or bumps does change a residential area. From a dangerous speedway to a livable community. Again, just my observations, I'm not a traffic engineer, just a old guy on a bike.
gears to you...leo
ps, after reading the speedbumps website, I'm a little bemused. Think I'll follow it . Because if I see"views by a cyclist " in it, I'll write a few letters to the Sun newspaper about the views from another cyclist as well. I'll bring it up with my club, West Sound Cycling Club (we're the local club, if you didn't know) and also see what our Bicycle Alliance rep has to say as well. Think the clubs position will be that traffic calming tables are a good idea.
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Edited: Thursday May 01, 2008 at 12:02 AM by leo stone
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